For those of you looking for techniques the Party uses to control the population's minds in 1984, use this space to post ideas, helpful resources, passages you are considering using in your essay, and/or questions.
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megan.z
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Quote i might be using to help prove the Party uses mind control to control the past: O'Brien smiled faintly. "YOu are no metaphysician Winston," he said. "Until this moment you had never considered what is meant by existence. I will put it more precisely. Does the past exist concretely in space? Is there somewhere or other a place, a world of solid objects, where the past is still happening?" "No" "Then were does the past exist, if at all?" "In records. It is written down." "In records. And-?" "In the mind. In human memories." "In memory. Very well, then. We, the Party, control all records, and we control all memories. Then we control the past, do we not?" - Page 205
~T. Reese 4th White~ For the mind control people I hope this will help but i was thinking you could show how the party changed winstons mind by showing an early comment in the book that is on page 69 where he says, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." then you compare it to a later part in the book 'Almost unconsciously he traced with his finger in the dust on the table: 2+2=5'.............
One think I plan to talk about is the how afraid all of the citizens are of the Party. The telescreens watch their every move and the citzens are fearful that they might say or move in the wrong way around a telescreen. "Your worst enemy, he reflected, was your own nervous system. At any moment the tension inside you was liable to translate itself into some visible symptom." (56) The party also makes the citizens afraid of other citizens. Any close relationships are discouraged, including families. The citizens don't become close to others because anyone could turn on them at any moment. By making citizens fear them, the party is able to control not only their actions, but also their thoughts and minds. S. Head 2nd White
This quote might help you in your essay if you are looking for a quote on mind control with fear: "Do anything to me!" he yelled. "You've been starving me for weeks. Finish it off and let me die. Shoot me. Hang me. Sentence me to twenty-five years. Is there somebody else you want me to give away? Just say who it is and I'll tell you anything you want. I don't care who it is or what you do to them. I've got a wife and three children. The biggest of them isn't six years old. You can take the whole lot of them and cut their throats in front of my eyes, and I'll stand by and watch it. But not Room 101!"(pg.195) P. Triplett 2nd W
this is on mind control using doublethink. "But did exist! It does exist! It exists in memory. I remember it. You remember it." "I do not remember it," said O'Brien. (247). this is an example of a person using double think on themsevels on of the most improtan froms of mind control the party has.
I plan to write about how the Party uses lack of education for mind control. The Party can change the past and make the citizens think conditions were worse before the Party came into power. Also the Party is creating Newspeak and will soon get rid of Oldspeak. I think this is lack of education because the Party isn't teaching words that help people express their emotions. Rachael B. 2nd W
h-gardner 2w. What i was thinking was that you could say that they control the education. The party says that they changed everything for the better from the capatalists and that they created helicopters and airplanes. Winston states earlier that he remembers that the party did not actually invent these things. So this is the party controlling the mind of the young through education. Then the use fear so that people wont even think anti-party with the telescreens and the thought police. That was two ways that i came up with.
so yea I'm doing mind control and um... i was going to use doublethink, torture, and propaganda as the ways they control minds. I have a few quotes on some of these categories "The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in."- pg.16 Pt.1 Ch.1
"Until they became conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."- pg. 61 Pt. 1 Ch.1 "Beautiful thing,the destruction of words"- Syme so those are just a few quotes but i have to stop bc this is getting pretty lengthy M.Rigal 3rd white
That's a good idea, Rachael. I was thinking something along those lines (how the party keeps the proles deprived so they can't think anything other than surviving).
propaganda could be used as one form of mind control. -Big Brother posters -victory announcements
My main focus on mind control is going to be how the party uses fear to make the people behave. Throughout the book there is a constant fear that Winston has of getting caught by the thought police, ratted out by the spies, or even just having a laps in judgment and getting caught by the telescreens. With all those things around you, it is hard to take the chance of misbehaving simply because you know you will get caught. This is reinforced countless times as peole go missing and dissapear. Then even when Winston is caught and being held in the ministry, the party reinstates even more fear in him by bringing in other prisoners. When the skull faced man is brought into the cell with Winston, it helps make Winston fear even more what is going to happen to him in the future. "Room 101" he said. --"Comrad! Officer!" he cried. "you dont have to take me to that place! Havnt I told you everything already? What else do you want to know? Theres nothing i wouldnt confess nothing!--"I've got a wife and three children. The biggest of them isnt six years old. You can take the whole lot of them and cut their throats in front of my eyes, and ill stand by and watch it. But not room 101!" Page 195
Along with Jiyeon and Rachael, I also plan to talk about the proles' lack of education. Well, maybe not their lack of education, but what they're actually being taught. "Until they [the proles] become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become unconscious." pg. 61
Another point I'm touching on is how the mind control has affected Winston differently than the proles. Instead of successfully indoctrinating him, they have sparked his rebellion.
I think that what Sara Head said was very true. I also think a huge topic to include in this paper would be the regulation of emotions. During the two minutes hate week Winston feels emotionally required to yell and scream at Goldstein. Also, the very last words of the book is when Winston finally realizes that he loves big brother. They train the people to believe that Big Brother is saving them through propaganda. Some include how the ministry of plenty is always producing more to make the people love big brother more. Abby Farrow 2nd White
An idea I had for the propaganda portion of the mind control use by the party was Big Brother. Throughout the book you see him used as a person to be obeyed, and possibly worshipped or feared.
Everyone has almost the same ideas. I think talking about the lack of education is a great way to relate it back to mind control because they reworded the children's history books. I also think the two mintues hate is also another good one. In my opinion it made people kind of go crazy, but each let their own emotions out. One of my ideas is that I was going to try to relate the ministries to mind control because all the ministiries' name are the total opposite. M.Rogers 2W
Really appreciate everyone's comments and ideas, helped me a lot. Going on about the Party controlling the past, there are a couple parts in the book where it shows that learning about the real past is so hard in the society of 1984. The part where Winston talks about having solid proof on Jones, Aaronson, and Rutherford (64-67), the part where Winston talks to the old man in the proles bar (74-78), and the church song Winston can only vaguely remember, which is mentioned a lot.
I also recommend looking at the blue day blog, they have some really good comments too. O.Jeong 2W
Here are some helpful quotes: -"All that was needed was an unenending series of victories over your own memory." (Orwell 32) This shows how the people were forced to control their own minds. -"--if all records told the same tale--then the lie passed into history and became truth."(Orwell 32) This shows the "mutability of History". If there's no record of an event besides your own memory, then you begin to think you are insane. -K. Pillai 3 White
Something in the book that really helped me was chapter 9 in book 2 when Winston is reading Goldstein's book. In this section, I used the war is peace section to show how the party used mind control to make the citizens think that they're in war with different nations(pg.152). Overall in this section, you can see the party's tactics and ways they use mind control.
Sorry~~!!! I'm really late~! um so Not only the Party in 1984 used mind control, other totalism governments such as Nazi, North Korea, etc used the same ways to control people's mind. For example, the Party had Room 101, which was a place where government put political criminals(thought criminals) in there and force them to change. Instead of Room101, Nazis had concentration camp as a same thing. There are more similar ways both Party in 1984 and other totalism government used, like in the way of propaganda, taking away individuality, and fear, etc.
i used the same passage P.Tripplet used in my essay to describe how the Party strikes fear into the hearts of people who disagree with them through torture. Also, i used this quote to show how repetative and effective the propaganda in 1984 is. " On each landing, opposite the lift shaft, the poster with the enormous face gazed from the wall. It was one of those pictures which are so contrived that the eyes follow you about when you move. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU , the caption beneath it ran." (Orwell, 5)
Michael F Some of the quotes that i used for my essay on Mind control came mostly from the section where winston was being tortured. the quotes that stood out the most were when winston believed that O'brian is holding up more fingers than he actually is, 2+2=5, and where the ideas of double think are being explained. also, from the very beginning of the book where winston is talking about telescreens, quotes from there are very nice and refer to the propoganda as a form of mind control
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Quote i might be using to help prove the Party uses mind control to control the past:
O'Brien smiled faintly. "YOu are no metaphysician Winston," he said. "Until this moment you had never considered what is meant by existence. I will put it more precisely. Does the past exist concretely in space? Is there somewhere or other a place, a world of solid objects, where the past is still happening?"
"No"
"Then were does the past exist, if at all?"
"In records. It is written down."
"In records. And-?"
"In the mind. In human memories."
"In memory. Very well, then. We, the Party, control all records, and we control all memories. Then we control the past, do we not?"
- Page 205
~T. Reese 4th White~ For the mind control people I hope this will help but i was thinking you could show how the party changed winstons mind by showing an early comment in the book that is on page 69 where he says, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." then you compare it to a later part in the book 'Almost unconsciously he traced with his finger in the dust on the table: 2+2=5'.............
One think I plan to talk about is the how afraid all of the citizens are of the Party. The telescreens watch their every move and the citzens are fearful that they might say or move in the wrong way around a telescreen. "Your worst enemy, he reflected, was your own nervous system. At any moment the tension inside you was liable to translate itself into some visible symptom." (56) The party also makes the citizens afraid of other citizens. Any close relationships are discouraged, including families. The citizens don't become close to others because anyone could turn on them at any moment.
By making citizens fear them, the party is able to control not only their actions, but also their thoughts and minds.
S. Head
2nd White
This quote might help you in your essay if you are looking for a quote on mind control with fear: "Do anything to me!" he yelled. "You've been starving me for weeks. Finish it off and let me die. Shoot me. Hang me. Sentence me to twenty-five years. Is there somebody else you want me to give away? Just say who it is and I'll tell you anything you want. I don't care who it is or what you do to them. I've got a wife and three children. The biggest of them isn't six years old. You can take the whole lot of them and cut their throats in front of my eyes, and I'll stand by and watch it. But not Room 101!"(pg.195)
P. Triplett
2nd W
this is on mind control using doublethink. "But did exist! It does exist! It exists in memory. I remember it. You remember it." "I do not remember it," said O'Brien. (247). this is an example of a person using double think on themsevels on of the most improtan froms of mind control the party has.
3W M Mckinley
I plan to write about how the Party uses lack of education for mind control. The Party can change the past and make the citizens think conditions were worse before the Party came into power. Also the Party is creating Newspeak and will soon get rid of Oldspeak. I think this is lack of education because the Party isn't teaching words that help people express their emotions.
Rachael B.
2nd W
h-gardner 2w. What i was thinking was that you could say that they control the education. The party says that they changed everything for the better from the capatalists and that they created helicopters and airplanes. Winston states earlier that he remembers that the party did not actually invent these things. So this is the party controlling the mind of the young through education. Then the use fear so that people wont even think anti-party with the telescreens and the thought police. That was two ways that i came up with.
so yea I'm doing mind control and um... i was going to use doublethink, torture, and propaganda as the ways they control minds. I have a few quotes on some of these categories
"The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in."- pg.16 Pt.1 Ch.1
"Until they became conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."- pg. 61 Pt. 1 Ch.1
"Beautiful thing,the destruction of words"- Syme
so those are just a few quotes but i have to stop bc this is getting pretty lengthy
M.Rigal 3rd white
That's a good idea, Rachael. I was thinking something along those lines (how the party keeps the proles deprived so they can't think anything other than surviving).
propaganda could be used as one form of mind control.
-Big Brother posters
-victory announcements
J.Lee
2W
My main focus on mind control is going to be how the party uses fear to make the people behave. Throughout the book there is a constant fear that Winston has of getting caught by the thought police, ratted out by the spies, or even just having a laps in judgment and getting caught by the telescreens. With all those things around you, it is hard to take the chance of misbehaving simply because you know you will get caught. This is reinforced countless times as peole go missing and dissapear. Then even when Winston is caught and being held in the ministry, the party reinstates even more fear in him by bringing in other prisoners. When the skull faced man is brought into the cell with Winston, it helps make Winston fear even more what is going to happen to him in the future. "Room 101" he said. --"Comrad! Officer!" he cried. "you dont have to take me to that place! Havnt I told you everything already? What else do you want to know? Theres nothing i wouldnt confess nothing!--"I've got a wife and three children. The biggest of them isnt six years old. You can take the whole lot of them and cut their throats in front of my eyes, and ill stand by and watch it. But not room 101!" Page 195
Along with Jiyeon and Rachael, I also plan to talk about the proles' lack of education. Well, maybe not their lack of education, but what they're actually being taught.
"Until they [the proles] become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become unconscious." pg. 61
Another point I'm touching on is how the mind control has affected Winston differently than the proles. Instead of successfully indoctrinating him, they have sparked his rebellion.
L. Grand
2W
I think that what Sara Head said was very true. I also think a huge topic to include in this paper would be the regulation of emotions. During the two minutes hate week Winston feels emotionally required to yell and scream at Goldstein. Also, the very last words of the book is when Winston finally realizes that he loves big brother. They train the people to believe that Big Brother is saving them through propaganda. Some include how the ministry of plenty is always producing more to make the people love big brother more.
Abby Farrow
2nd White
An idea I had for the propaganda portion of the mind control use by the party was Big Brother. Throughout the book you see him used as a person to be obeyed, and possibly worshipped or feared.
Everyone has almost the same ideas. I think talking about the lack of education is a great way to relate it back to mind control because they reworded the children's history books. I also think the two mintues hate is also another good one. In my opinion it made people kind of go crazy, but each let their own emotions out. One of my ideas is that I was going to try to relate the ministries to mind control because all the ministiries' name are the total opposite.
M.Rogers 2W
I thought that a use of mind control in the book was the war. I'm not exactly sure if there is a good quote to help me describe that.
R. Phillips
3 white
Really appreciate everyone's comments and ideas, helped me a lot. Going on about the Party controlling the past, there are a couple parts in the book where it shows that learning about the real past is so hard in the society of 1984. The part where Winston talks about having solid proof on Jones, Aaronson, and Rutherford (64-67), the part where Winston talks to the old man in the proles bar (74-78), and the church song Winston can only vaguely remember, which is mentioned a lot.
I also recommend looking at the blue day blog, they have some really good comments too. O.Jeong 2W
Here are some helpful quotes:
-"All that was needed was an unenending series of victories over your own memory." (Orwell 32) This shows how the people were forced to control their own minds.
-"--if all records told the same tale--then the lie passed into history and became truth."(Orwell 32) This shows the "mutability of History". If there's no record of an event besides your own memory, then you begin to think you are insane.
-K. Pillai 3 White
Something in the book that really helped me was chapter 9 in book 2 when Winston is reading Goldstein's book. In this section, I used the war is peace section to show how the party used mind control to make the citizens think that they're in war with different nations(pg.152). Overall in this section, you can see the party's tactics and ways they use mind control.
N.Datiri
4th White
Sorry~~!!! I'm really late~!
um
so
Not only the Party in 1984 used mind control, other totalism governments such as Nazi, North Korea, etc used the same ways to control people's mind. For example, the Party had Room 101, which was a place where government put political criminals(thought criminals) in there and force them to change. Instead of Room101, Nazis had concentration camp as a same thing. There are more similar ways both Party in 1984 and other totalism government used, like in the way of propaganda, taking away individuality, and fear, etc.
i used the same passage P.Tripplet used in my essay to describe how the Party strikes fear into the hearts of people who disagree with them through torture. Also, i used this quote to show how repetative and effective the propaganda in 1984 is.
" On each landing, opposite the lift shaft, the poster with the enormous face gazed from the wall. It was one of those pictures which are so contrived that the eyes follow you about when you move. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU , the caption beneath it ran." (Orwell, 5)
and that last comment was M. Hartzog..... my b
Michael F
Some of the quotes that i used for my essay on Mind control came mostly from the section where winston was being tortured. the quotes that stood out the most were when winston believed that O'brian is holding up more fingers than he actually is, 2+2=5, and where the ideas of double think are being explained. also, from the very beginning of the book where winston is talking about telescreens, quotes from there are very nice and refer to the propoganda as a form of mind control
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